Followed By Mercy

When We Surrender Control, God Provides Rest

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What if the secret to peace isn't gaining more control, but surrendering it?

Do you ever feel like the world is spinning out of control, and it's up to you to hold everything together? In this episode, host Austin Gardner welcomes Robert Canfield, president of Taking the Light Ministries, for an honest conversation about a different way to find peace, one that doesn't depend on having all the answers.

Drawing from the ancient wisdom of Psalm 131, Robert and Austin explore David's gentle picture of a soul at rest, not striving, not demanding, but quietly trusting like a child content in its mother's arms. It's a stunning reversal of what our anxious culture tells us about control and self-reliance. Instead of grasping for answers, David humbles himself and admits, "Some things are too high for me." That admission, from Israel's greatest king, is a gift for anyone who's ever felt overwhelmed by life.

Robert shares his own story—from a small Ohio town to unexpected places around the globe—showing how God redirects our paths with purpose and mercy. Together, Austin and Robert dive into how pride and anxiety are often two sides of the same coin, and how trying to manage what only God can handle leaves us restless and worn.

This episode also explores the deep connection between stress, anxiety, and our spiritual posture. When we try to control what we were never meant to carry, the weight becomes too much. But God isn't looking for our performance; He's inviting us into His presence. Like Jesus said, "Learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls."

Suppose you're troubled by world events, personal storms, or spiritual doubts. In that case, this conversation offers a gentle reminder: true peace isn't found in gaining more control, but in quietly surrendering and resting in the One who never lets go.

To learn more about Taking the Light Ministries, visit takingthelight.com or email Robert at rcanfield@lighthouse-baptist.com.

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Austin Gardner:

All right, I'd like to welcome you to another episode with Robert Canfield here on the podcast Followed by Mercy. We got through discussing what we did yesterday and Robert goes. You know, we never did get to the passage of Scripture. I was going to talk about that, that's right, and so I was very happy to have Robert helping me and us discussing it, and so we're going to go on and look at Psalm 131. So I am accompanied today by Robert Canfield, very good friend. He is the director and president and everything at Taking the Light Ministries and you can look him up. Tell them, robert, just a little bit about yourself.

Robert Canfield:

Yeah, my name is Robert Canfield. I'm from a little small town in Loudounville Ohio called Loudounville Ohio. I'm from a little small town in Loudonville Ohio called Loudonville Ohio, so it's a little, big, small town in Ohio.

Austin Gardner:

It's called.

Robert Canfield:

Loudonville, loudonville, ohio, that's right, it's a village, I guess. Yeah. So yeah, it's Loudonville. Loudonville, that's two times no, but I grew up there and I met your son almost 20 years ago, this coming month. Well, tell them that that's a funny story. It was pretty funny. Tell them about that. Yeah, like I said, I lived in a small town 2,000 people, 2,500 people, and I lived about 13 miles outside of it. You've been there. I have a whole bunch of Amish people that are surrounded where I grew up and I went to a little small country church.

Robert Canfield:

One day a missionary shows up and he was like nobody I've ever seen before. Most missionaries that went to our church, they were older people, they were retired and they were going to serve the Lord for the remaining days, but this guy was like 20 years old man. He had it all together, at least a lot I thought he did. He had it all together. He had a wife and he had a purpose and passion. He just took a liking to me and he was investing in my life. God brought me down. How big was that church?

Austin Gardner:

30, 40 people. David's showing up. David's about to turn 40. How long ago was it? He was 20. He's 20. What?

Robert Canfield:

job did you have when I graduated high school? I made toilets at Mansfield Plumbing Products. Then they laid off people and I quit. After that. I was working with the Amish people. I was what you call a Yoder toter. We'd pick up Rufus Jr and Eli Yoder and we'd go and we'd build custom homes.

Austin Gardner:

David shows up. And what did David? He preached on missions that night.

Robert Canfield:

He preached Exodus, chapter 3, which I'm pretty sure he got from you about excuses that we give from God.

Austin Gardner:

Well, I doubt he got it from me. He's a much better preacher than I am.

Robert Canfield:

Go ahead. But yeah, he preached that Sunday morning and it was just like, wow, man, this guy had some. He spoke as though he had authority and he had a purpose in the message. I was just really, really impressed. And so I was walking out of the church at the end of the service and you know, just say I was a little keep-to-myself type guy and I was walking out to my truck and he actually ran me down and he asked me what I was doing during the afternoon and so I said, well, I have a big afternoon planned. And he said what are you doing? And I said I'm going to my friend's hay field and we're going to shoot groundhogs.

Austin Gardner:

He had no clue what that meant. He grew up in Peru.

Robert Canfield:

He doesn't even know what a groundhog is I know, I know, but that's what you do in the town of Loudounville. But he asked me if I wanted to go out to eat. And I went out to eat with them and man, he told me stories of what the Lord did through his life and his family's life there and how to keep up Peru. And I was just taken back and he asked me a question I've never been asked before. He asked me if I've ever been to a big city and I told him, yeah, I have been to a big city. And then he asked me which big city it was and I said I've been to Cleveland, ohio, a couple of times and man, he laughed so hard.

Robert Canfield:

He said that's not a big city. I says when you're from Loudonville, ohio, it's a huge city. And so he asked me if I wanted to go to see a big city and go to Peru. And so he asked me that on Sunday, that next day, on Monday, I was looking to buy a ticket and working on getting my passport. I told him yes.

Austin Gardner:

How many days later did you landed in Peru?

Robert Canfield:

Well, david took a special trip on that one and it was during the time of graduation, december. It was so much in the end of November, beginning of December, sometime like that, that's right. I remember it was Christian Ching was like the guy that won the sword, the sword bearer, and that's where I first met you, down there, christian.

Austin Gardner:

Ching is a missionary today in Brazil and he was just actually at Liberty Baptist Church, where my son-in-law is a pastor, and he was here in our home saying Christians being used of God there you go.

Robert Canfield:

Well, I remember him carrying the sword. I was like this is pretty cool. I remember seeing what God did, what he was doing, he Cool.

Austin Gardner:

I remember seeing what God did, what he was doing, he still is doing down there in Peru. It was pretty incredible, okay, and so that's how we all got here, connected there together. But hey, we ended up the other day. Oh, you didn't tell us you were taking the light, yep, and so what does taking the light mean?

Robert Canfield:

Well, we are trying to take God's the gospel, the gospel of light, I think was it.

Robert Canfield:

Paul says the light unto the Gentiles.

Robert Canfield:

We're trying to take it to the most darkest places, places where people don't have access readily to the gospel, and so we're working in Burkina Faso, west Africa, with a missionary named Jason Rischel and he's doing a wonderful job, and it's a country that's predominantly Islamic and it's a country that's under a lot of pain right now.

Robert Canfield:

There's a lot of terrorism going on and we're using media to try to get the gospel to reach out to people that are in need there and, working alongside missionary Jason Rischel, we're also working there in Peru with David, and we're reaching new places and new areas using media as well. Just this past month, from our radio station not the radio station that we're renting out time slots from we had 25 people call in for us and I believe we had 18 people that we gave Bibles and we gave a clear plan of salvation and 8 people made professions of faith from the guy that we're working with, and we're trying to get these people plugged into churches there in Akepa and find out places where there are no churches and see if we can't see churches started in those areas.

Austin Gardner:

If you're listening. All these men Jason Rischel, david Gardner and Robert Canfield could all three use personal support, and so I tell you that, so that you could pray about maybe helping them with the ministry of getting the gospel out. Gospel, good news. What's the good news? The good news is followed by mercy. It is that God loves everybody everywhere.

Austin Gardner:

God doesn't want anybody to go to hell, god wants everybody to go to heaven, and God, instead of being angry with us for our sin, god himself took on human flesh and took our sin on him and paid our sin debt, and he's done that for the entire world. In fact, as the apostle Paul called him the savior of the world, especially those that believe, so he's everybody's savior, but you're going to have to appropriate it and trust Jesus for yourself. Your debt's already paid, your sin's already covered. All you need to do is accept the gift of God. Well, you were talking about Psalm 131, and that's where we were going to head back to. You want to jump us into Psalm 131? By the way, jump in with anything you want, at any time. Let's just shoot a fat.

Robert Canfield:

Yeah, so like the song.

Robert Canfield:

As I was studying, I was reading it and it says, like the song of ascent, or the song of degree, meaning degree adding, like going up, and, and so as I was reading that, I had no clue what that meant, but it's a Psalm of David.

Robert Canfield:

But it's real interesting when you, I was reading the notes that you had in your logos that you share with other people, and it's interesting that the children of Israel would actually sing these Psalms as they ascend up the temple during the festivals.

Robert Canfield:

And so Israel had like three festivals. They would have the, where they would remember how God passed over and death didn't hit the firstborn and how God delivered them out of Egypt, and that would be a national holiday where everybody would ascend there in Jerusalem and people would come and they would make offerings. They were required to make offerings to the Lord and that's where the temple is, where God's presence was. And so, as they're walking into the presence of God, each step they had a different psalm and one of the steps was Psalms 131. And as they're ascending up into the presence of God, as they would go out, throughout three times, at least three times a year, I think they had the Passover, and then they had the day of Pentecost, and then the day of the booze or the tabernacles. They would come to Jerusalem and they would go where God's presence was and they were offering sacrifices.

Austin Gardner:

I would have never known. Just to say three. It seemed like they had a celebration about every month.

Robert Canfield:

Well, they had a lot of celebrations, but there was three that they required to come to Jerusalem. From what I'm studying, I could be wrong I mean I'm not the end of all but they were required that and it was really cool. When you think about those festivals, you could talk about those festivals a lot, but with Psalms 131, they're going into the presence of God and David is saying this to himself. He says Lord, he's speaking to God. He says Lord, my heart is not haughty. It means my heart's not exalted, my heart's not lifted up, my heart's not high, my heart's not proud, it's not proud. And as you think about the scriptures, I mean the scripture has a lot to say about a proud heart, a lifted up heart. It's people that often, I think in the law he talked about, he said be careful lest, when you get into the promised land, that you forget God, your heart gets lifted up and you forget His commandments, Because all this wonderful goodness that you have, you get.

Austin Gardner:

So lifted up Somewhere along the way. We stop remembering that God did it. We start thinking we did it. Oh yeah, and, by the way, that performance-based religion really turns into that it's really not about what God did, it's about what you do. But that's what leads you into legalism and depression, because all of a sudden you realize I can't never seem to do enough.

Robert Canfield:

Well, and when you feel like it all rests on you, man, either that's going to depress you down to the point or it's going to exalt you to the point and your eyes are focused in on yourself. And David says God, he's about ready to go before God. And here's the real question You're going to go before God and just have, like this proud heart, like I did it. I did it. No, no. He says Lord, my heart's not exalted. He says, nor is my eyes lofty. My eyes aren't looking too high. I think what he's talking about here is he's talking about his attitude. I mean, a lot of times you talked about performance-based religion. People get a prideful heart and then, when they start looking at other people, man, their eyes are laughing Like why doesn't this person do this? Why doesn't a person do?

Austin Gardner:

that. Why doesn't he do what I do? Exactly, that's what the Pharisees love. In fact, the Pharisee needs a center, because without a center, the Pharisee hadn't got anybody to look down on, and we all got to look down on somebody, or we can look up to Jesus.

Robert Canfield:

That's right. And so when David's walking into the presence of God, he's like he realizes there's no, there's no room for self in the presence of God. There's no room for self If you think about, like what caused Satan to fall? I mean, isn't that what we say in Isaiah? He says I will exalt, I will lift up, I will lift up.

Robert Canfield:

And when David's going before God, he's like my heart's not haughty, nor is my eyes too lofty, they're not too high, they're not lifted up. And then he says this neither do I exercise myself in great matters or in things too high for me. And as I was reading that, I stopped and I thought I was like man, what does exercise mean? What is he trying to talk? He's like I'm not concerning myself, I'm not giving my mind and my body and my action over things too great for me or things too high for me. And as I thought about that, I began to think you know, if he's the king, who's supposed to be thinking about the great and high things? If he's not, Like I, look at what's going on in America and stuff like that, Just use that as an example. There's things going around the world that I don't understand, but I'm glad that we have people that are in elected leadership that are thinking about them. Right, they're high things. I can't control what's going on in Iran.

Austin Gardner:

I don't think you and I have a whole lot to do with Israel and Hamas, or what's going on in Taiwan, or what's going on in Ukraine and Russia.

Robert Canfield:

We can get all torn up about that Isn't that true, these files or whatever. But at the end of the day, god hasn't given that to me. The end of the day, god hasn't given that to me, and that's what David's saying. I'm not exercising myself things too high, not things that are too great for me. I'm not concerned about all these things. I'm not concerned about my health. I can't control my health. I mean, I know we can do exercise and diet and stuff like that, but in reality there's things that come in my life that I have no control over.

Austin Gardner:

That's probably the hardest thing for most people to admit, because human beings want control and what aggravates us about God is that he's in control and he don't seem to do what we would do if we were in control.

Robert Canfield:

So you said people want control. What are you doing inside your heart? You're lifting yourself up, aren't you? You're taking yourself in the place that God should have.

Austin Gardner:

And you are Exactly. That's a good point. You're making yourself out to be the authority. You're making yourself out to be the wise one. You're the one that knows what's best.

Robert Canfield:

And when I don't get things, that I know what's best and I know I have got my wisdom and it's not falling through. You know what it causes inside me? An anxiousness, Anxiety, A frustration. And David says I'm going before God. He's the one that has the whole thing in control, does he not? Yeah, it's good.

Robert Canfield:

He's ascending to the presence of God. He says my heart's not exalted, my eyes aren't lofty, I'm not looking at other people saying, hey, you need to do this, hey, you need to do that, no, no. He says I'm not exercising my things, I'm not exercising myself in great matters, nor things too high for me. He is coming at a humble spirit and this is the man that's the greatest. He's the leader of that country, and he says this. Surely I have behaved myself and quieted myself, and I think that's where we have a problem.

Austin Gardner:

Calm down, oh man. Don't be so occupied with yourself, don't be?

Robert Canfield:

occupied with yourself, don't?

Austin Gardner:

be occupied with the entire world. Yeah, cast all your care on the Lord. I think I heard you tell a friend that. Yeah.

Robert Canfield:

When Solomon was speaking in Ecclesiastes, he talks about with the increase of knowledge. You know what comes with the increase of knowledge Pride, vexation. Well, it's true, good point, it's vexation. And so as I get, as I know more, I get more anxious, I get more frustrated, I get more, there's more like I got to control. There's just no way of controlling things.

Austin Gardner:

That fits right in with Psalm 23, doesn't it? Which is we've interrupted our broadcast of that, but the whole point of Psalm 23 is I'm a sheep.

Robert Canfield:

Sheep aren't vexed.

Austin Gardner:

They don't think too high. When you were a young kid, what did you worry about? Not getting a whooping. That's about the main thing I worried about. I go back to, you're right, you didn't worry about what lunches you're going to eat. No, you didn't worry about whether you're going to have clothes. It was a peaceful time, wasn't it? You know, the only thing I ever worried about was if I aggravated my parents, don't aggravate them.

Robert Canfield:

I could get some whoopings. I drive back through Ohio and I go up and down those dirt roads and I remember, like I remember, when I was a kid, I was just driving around, I was just, I was relaxed, I was, I was living life. No, no stress, there was no there was no weight.

Austin Gardner:

The the only stress was pleasing your parents. That's about it, you're right.

Robert Canfield:

And I look and I'm like kids live such a peaceful life, right, some kids, the kids that aren't involved in traumatic experiences. But when you live in that thing where there's just like everything's taken care of and David is going before God and he's quieting himself, he's like I behaved myself and quieted myself. Yep, and how did he do it? As a, as a child that's weaned from his mother, I'm not like the baby that's whining. And what does a baby do when he's hungry? He whines, he complains, he begs, he's, he's yelling, he's screaming and he's like nope, I'm like a weaned child. And then he says this I love this part. He says my soul is, even as a weaned child, the place that has all my desires and all my wants. It's calm. Yep, that's good. And then he ends it with an application for everybody. He says let Israel David's talking to his people Let Israel hope in the Lord from henceforth, from right, now and forever.

Austin Gardner:

That is such a wise thing for all of us. You can hope in the president, you can hope in the Congress, you can hope in the government, you can hope in all sorts of things, but those things will always fail you. Your pastor will fail you, your church will fail you, your family will fail you, you will fail you. Yeah, oh, that's very true. You'll fail you, but the Lord won't fail. He's never done it. He never does. That's right.

Robert Canfield:

And that's why we talked about yesterday, or whatever the podcast before, when Jesus was here. He said learn of me. Yep, he says, learn of me, for I am meek and lowly of heart. It's the haughty heart, it's the lifted eyes that think everything rests and relies on them.

Austin Gardner:

It's those people and you know like yeah, we worry about yesterday, it's gone. Yeah, we worry about tomorrow, Didn't gone.

Robert Canfield:

We worry about tomorrow, it's in here Because we're trying to be too big Instead of just trusting the Lord. Right? It simplifies life, does it not?

Austin Gardner:

Let's go back to what you said about anxiety. What causes anxiety?

Robert Canfield:

I think anxiety is brought about. So I looked up what is anxiety and it talks about how this was all like research from artificial AI, the perplexity in those, okay. And it said, well, some things happen because of past traumatic experience and sometimes happens and it says it's stress related. A lot of things happen in our life and this is crazy because I was talking to my friend they're stress induced. Anxiety sets is not only stress, but it is stress.

Robert Canfield:

I was talking to my friend and he had he had Crohn's disease and he's doing he does, he's done a lot of research. He's done it. He's had it since he was in high school and he says they're finding out that Crohn's disease, more and more, is caused by stress. So I went on and I checked it out and it says it's on plexus. He says it's not caused by stress and but it says, but it's caused by a suppressed immune system. It says, well, what causes the suppressed immune system? It's like, well, poor diet, blah, sometimes, a lot of times stress, yeah. And then it says even stress and.

Robert Canfield:

And so you think about, like, what causes stress and anxiety? What causes all that stuff? What is it? And it's usually brought back to if you just read the bible, the. The Bible says be anxious for nothing, be careful for nothing. Right, that Greek word is the same Greek word but Jesus uses in Matthew, chapter six, when he says this take no thought. Yep, that's right. And so what happens is, is we have this terrible thing that's happened in our past that all we can do is dwell on it?

Austin Gardner:

We need to leave it alone, bury it and move on, forgetting those things which are behind.

Robert Canfield:

Or we have bad things that are happening right now, but my mind and my heart's not supposed to be set on the things of this world.

Austin Gardner:

We need to see the truth beyond what's happening. So I may be in the middle of a mess, but God still loves me.

Robert Canfield:

God doesn't create mess in our life. I think that's one thing that people get upset.

Austin Gardner:

I think people need to hear that, because I think we all think God either did it to me or he allowed it to happen. But it's the sinful world you live in and God's not out to hurt you. It's the wages of sin, not the wages of God.

Robert Canfield:

It's very true and I think, if you just think through the scripture, like every mess that's in the Bible, he likes to redeem it.

Austin Gardner:

Yeah, what was it? Yeah, he works in. He takes what the world meant for evil and what Satan meant for evil turns it to good.

Robert Canfield:

I think the president's wife. I think it was either Calvin Coolidge, mrs Coolidge. She said the world's worst day in history and the world's greatest day in history are only three days apart. Good point. I don't think I've ever heard that one. It's true, it is the truth. I heard that and I was like that is so profound. I think I've heard that, but I hadn't heard it until the president's wife said it?

Robert Canfield:

I hadn't heard that. But I hadn't heard that. A president's wife said it. I think it was Ms Coolidge that said it. I could be wrong on that one. That's great. She said the world's worst day and the world's greatest day was only three days apart. So what is God known for? When we look at the Old Testament, we're thinking the Old Testament's a bunch of laws, a bunch of stuff. But even when Paul writes about it in Romans, chapter 16, he says yeah, that's right, Like what's the hope that God could take family issues and he turns it out something great and saving the entire world like he did with Joseph, and I think that's something we want you to hear.

Austin Gardner:

You're being followed by mercy and you're feeling all beat up right now and you're feeling like life is over for you and you feel like nobody cares about you. You feel like everybody's watching you and you have a sort of a paranoia going in your life right now. Well, how would you apply this to that?

Robert Canfield:

Robert. Well, I would say this You've got that paranoia in your life and if you're born again, if you're a Christian, you're a follower of Jesus, if you figure out who God is. You said it before I think it was yesterday that when we view through the scriptures, we've got to view it through the God of love.

Austin Gardner:

God is love. He is love. And on taste and see that the Lord is good. God is good, so he can't be bad. No, he's good, can't be ugly. Every perfect gift comes out from the Father above, in whom there's no shadow, no changing.

Robert Canfield:

When we see that, in light of that, when we start seeing the scriptures, we should see and read the scriptures that way and that creates hope in us. I think the reason why we don't is because, like what you said, we get anxious and all these other things. Why do we feel like it's because we've got a distorted view of God David's going before him.

Austin Gardner:

You need to have a. You have a distorted view of God because you're too man-centered, you're too you-centered, too me-centered. It's like what am I doing and what am I? I cause this and this and it's all me, me, me, me, me. And God wants you to say gosh, you're the sheep.

Robert Canfield:

I'm the shepherd. And that's the difference between having a Bible mind view or Bible worldview and the world's worldview. The world says it all relies on man and us doing something in order to obtain God or order to obtain great character. But in reality the scripture shows that God is perfect and he loves us and he wants to be with his creation. He loves him so much he sent his only begotten son, and when we start seeing it through the lens of man, god's the one that's the hero. I'm not the hero. I mean it alleviates stuff and in this Psalm I could imagine David going up the steps. I could imagine him having all the pain and all the worry and all the stuff that he has to worry about, and as he's going up before the presence of God, this is what he's saying to himself God, god, I'm not lifting up my heart today.

Austin Gardner:

I'm not looking at other people. I'm not looking at God.

Robert Canfield:

I'm not thinking about all this stuff, god, I'm going to go in your presence and those Jewish people.

Austin Gardner:

I'm coming in, humbly, I'm coming in humbly.

Robert Canfield:

I'm looking down and I'm coming in trusting you yeah.

Austin Gardner:

I'm not trying to figure it out.

Robert Canfield:

I'm not trying to figure it all out. You got this under control. I'm doing it from now on, forevermore. Some things are too high for me. Yeah, baby, I know when you're supposed to give me the food. I'm waiting my turn, I'm quieting myself and as he's doing that, he's going that and he does this three times a year and he actually stands in the presence of God. But get this. We actually live with the presence of God.

Austin Gardner:

Yeah, we are the temple he lives in us.

Robert Canfield:

Yeah, he did this three times a year whenever he was going into the temple. These were, these were the songs that were singing, as in their heart to themselves, as they're going up to see God and we get to live with them and like, how much more should we have that, that trust, that, that, that peace that passes? That's what, like I said, jesus says learn of me from. I'm meek and lowly of heart, and he says I will give unto you rest or peace and rest. I mean so much of a Christian life. And American Christianity is not peace, it's strife, it's contention, it's work, it's hard, but he gave us the abundant life and that's just not like you said, it's not heaven, it's not just heaven, it's right now.

Austin Gardner:

That's right. Eternal life is now. You know, the other day I was pretty discouraged dealing with cancer and all the junk goes on. Some days I'll just get discouraged. And so I said, lord, what is your purpose? And so I just I wrote down in my journal even my purpose is to know you, to know God, the Father and his Son, and to share what I know.

Austin Gardner:

The more I know God and I've spent so many years serving God out of almost a fear, like he wasn't happy with me, which was so backwards. God doesn't love me. Or he's not happy with me because of what I do. He wasn't happy because I learned another language. He wasn't happy because I learned another language. He wasn't happy because I preached 10 times a week. He wasn't happy because I saw people saved. He loved me because God is love and that changes everything.

Austin Gardner:

All of a sudden you can relax. Now I'm talking to you, my friend, and I think you know who I'm talking to. I think you know I'm talking to you. Quit lifting your eyes so high, quit thinking about you, and just relax and rest in how much he loves you. Go ahead. I can't add any more to that. Well, I think we love you and care and every one of us are followed by mercy. Surely goodness, and mercy does follow us all the days of our life. It pursues us. You can mark this down Even if you're in sin, he is chasing you down with his love to bring you home. So thank you for listening to the podcast Followed by Mercy. If you enjoy it at all, I'd appreciate it if you'd share it. Give it a like, leave a comment and help us get the word out even more. Robert, how about just a final word?

Robert Canfield:

Tell them again how to get in touch with you Well again, my name is Robert Canfield and if you want to get a hold of us, you can get ahold of me. My email address is rcanfield at lighthouse, that's L-I-G-H-T-H-O-U-S-E-baptistcom, and that's my email address, and you can follow us on Facebook or Instagram. It's Taking the Light and we have a website called takingthelightcom. So thank you so much for letting me be on here and we have a website called takingthelightcom.

Austin Gardner:

So thank you so much for letting me be on here. Well, thank you all for listening, and we'll be back to Psalm 23. But I just had the privilege of talking with Robert and I enjoy very much just sharing what God is doing with us and in our lives, and so I thought you might enjoy it. So I pray that today has been a blessing for you. Thank you very much, thank you.

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